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  2 elders just came to my door. I smiled and told them no.

  by schnell in

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  not playing their game, as i've learned here.

  they came to my door to find me with a full beard and a nightmare before christmas hoody, playing a video game where the characters "do not act according to bible principles", and i happily answered the door.

  i simply smiled and told them no when they asked if i have a minute.

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  The Searcher

  Beautifully dealt with!!

  As a very wise geneticist once advised me, "Searcher, if you've got nothing to say, don't say it!

  You gave them nothing!
  
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  Need input: elders showed up at our door today

  by de-opresso-liber in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so as i announced last week, my wife and i started our fade and i sent in a letter to our body that i was stepping down and cited the arc as the reason and insisted that we not be bothered.

  my wife told a few relatives in person that we weren't going to attend meetings any longer (immediate shunning occurred, the new videos must be effective) and that what we found with the arc shocked us etc etc.

  i have an inside track on how this is all going down by an awake elder on the body, co told them to handle the matter quickly.

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  The Searcher

  Say nothing more, give them nothing more - not even your time!

  When they contact you to "request" a meeting with you, politely ask what the meeting is about. When they tell you what's on their mind, simply say that you are grateful for their "offer", but that you are having to deal with private & personal issues which have sorely troubled you - and if things change, you will gladly call them!

  If you want to fade, I'd try to minimise/defuse the statements already made to others.

  If the call reveals that their "swords" are drawn, your Plan B looks likely.

  I wish you well.
  
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  So the governing body is NOT inspired...are they still "spirit directed"?

  by NikL in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  okay there has been lots of buzz about the feb 2017 wt where they say the governing body is not inspired nor infallible.

  yet, they are still using the baptism questions.

  the second one being... "do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of jehovah’s witnesses in association with god’s spirit-directedorganization?".

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  They don't have to be inspired - because they have the same status as Jesus Christ!

  Watchtower January 2017, page 28, par. 19 - "As we follow their direction, (the G.B.) therefore, we follow our Leader, Jesus."

  By extension therefore, Jesus Christ would prophesy wrong dates for Armageddon, would shield paedophiles from the "superior authorities", and would continually reverse accepted doctrines!

  There's nothing like a faithful & discreet slave! And they are nothing like one.
  
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  Do the dubs know apostate language like fade, etc....

  by Iamallcool in

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  2. friends

  the inactive sister used the word "faded" today and i am wondering if she has been on this site or not?

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  "Falling/fallen away" was what I used to hear regarding those who stopped attending meetings etc.
  
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  Arguing with Witnesses vs Trinitarians

  by schnell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have always been told as a jw that trinitarians, particularly baptists, are just the worst people to argue with out in service.

  i have always been told it was the world with a veil over their eyes.

  the hypocritical irony is that so many witnesses are completely stubborn and willing to believe in magic before they believe anything against their dogma.

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  Unitarianism, binitarianism, or trinitarianism? It's as easy as 1,2,3! :)
  
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  I have been doing some research and JWS are the true religion :0D

  by Deltawave in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i apologise for the sarcastic title, lol.

  so anyways i have been doing some research over the years and it would seem that evidence can be gathered to support any claim a person can make.

  evolutionists see evidence of evolution, creationists see evidence of creation and each religion can find an excuse to call itself the true religion.

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  Thanks to the information tsunami of the internet, it has become clear that there are opposing, qualified experts for virtually every topic or discipline. We can choose which experts we think sounds more credible.

  Examples; Kinder surprise eggs do/don't contain carcinogens; homeopathy does/doesn't have beneficial results; butter/margarine is bad for you.
  
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  Taking the Step

  by beardfreedom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  first time posting after years of reading, the things i have learned here have gradually helped to open my eyes to the reality of this religion.

  though i have been mentally out for some time, lately i have stopped going to meetings and service.

  the elders are calling and i have been ignoring them, i am trying to get up the courage to finally break free and never go back.

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  Welcome BeardFreedom.

  As Freddo said - take things slowly and easy if you want to fade.

  Best wishes for a pain-free exit!

  You have a P.M.
  
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  Mark the Date: March,20 2017 Austrailian Royal Commission to Reopen Its JW Child Abuse Inquiry

  by Room 215 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i don't know whether anyone else has posted a thread on this development:.

  http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.

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  Excellent news, and something to look forward to, early in 2017!
  
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  Something funny about Armageddon

  by evilApostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  years ago, when i was still a publisher, i had a very interesting conversation with a lady in the field service.

  we were talking about punishment for sin and so on.

  she believed in hellfire.

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  "Therefore, when one dies, he pays for all his sins and hence can recieve a resurrection."

  This is based on the org's perverted and nonsensical literal interpretation of Romans 6:7.

  If J.W.'s would read the surrounding verses - 2,4,6,8,10, & 11 - they'd immediately see it's a figurative context. Especially verses 2 & 11.
  
  
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  Your work is not in vain! Thank You!

  by de-opresso-liber in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  been lurking since early this year.

  there are many of us out there (at least in this area, central u.s.) who are waking up and crossing the line to talk to each other about it.

  in our area, several elders, ministerial servants and pioneers are actively and openly sharing info with each other daily.

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  The Searcher

  Welcome to the forum D.O.I. - and to the rest of your life!